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Bianca Intermediate - Planning Document

Spring 2025

📆 Friday May 23, 2024 9.00-16.00

Meeting notes 2025-04-17 9:00

Agenda

  • Status
  • Evaluation (perhaps not that prepared)
  • Discussion points
  • Schedule and teacher
  • ToDos

Status

  • Registered: 2
  • Advertisement:
    • [ ] BC will advertise more
    • [ ] RB will contact NBIS for advertisement
    • In NAISS newsetter, homepage, also NBIS?
    • BC adds in UPPMAX news
  • Course project:
    • sens2025560: open
      • Should we erase the old persons?
        • [DECIDED] Yes: RB, BC, JY, PM
          • [ ] BC will do :-)
        • No:

Evaluation

Discussion points

  • [DECIDE LATER, based on schedule] Suggest to remove the optional Q&A from 15:45-16:00: as the course is reasonably interactive, most questions are answered during the course. If learners really have questions, they will asks these at 16:00
    • Yes: RB, JY
    • No: PM
    • Uncertain, because other questions may show up: BC
  • Suggest move RStudio to Bianca Beginner course next time
    • [DECIDED] Yes: RB, BC, JY
    • Pass: PM
    • No:
  • As none of the teachers used a shared document, I suggest to remove link to such a shared document from the course material
    • [DECIDED] Yes: RB, BC, PM, JY
    • No:
  • Remove the learning outcome 'I can schedule a simple workflow of jobs that depend on each other using Nextflow', as we've not discussed this
    • [DECIDED] Yes: RB, BC, PM, JY
    • No:
  • [DELAY, AFTER SCHEDULE] If both complex and replicate jobs are important, I suggest to add 30 mins to that session, over going parallel
    • Yes: RB
    • No:
  • [DELAY, AFTER SCHEDULE] There was too little time for 'Efficient workflow', needs 15 more minutes. Will we try to schedule as such?
    • Yes: RB, BC
    • No:
  • [DELAY, AFTER SCHEDULE] File transfer can be shortened by 15 mins. Will we try to schedule as such (alternatively, some air in the schedule may be nice too)?
    • Yes: RB, BC
    • No:
  • [NOPE] BC is fond of the 50+(15)+50+(15)+50=180 which will fit perfectly for 9:00-12:00 and 13:00-16:00. Sure, there will be a shift of the break start/end each hour (5 min later). Other reasons against, flexibility in lesson length as required.
    • do you agree? BC, RB,
    • no, then see below:
  • Start at 9:15?
    • [DECIDED BY COIN TOSS] Yes: PM, JY
    • No: RB, BC

  • LO: "I understand how to build from source"

    • may be considered advanced (remove?)
      • RB: I'd be up for removal, using my rule 'when in doubt, remove'. Let's prefer quality over quantity :-)
    • no time for exercise so make to extra?
    • [DECIDED] Will be removed

  • [DELAY, AFTER SCHEDULE] Breaks are now 10 or 15 minutes. What about we keep them at the same length?

    • Yes, 15 minutes: RB
    • Yes, 10 minutes: RB
    • Yes, use the Björn approach: RB
    • No, be flexible, like 15m at typical coffee times and 10 m for leg stretch: BC (if not the one above), RB
  • [DELAY, AFTER SCHEDULE] (only if break length is 15 mins) Installation part 1 can be from 13:00-13:45 (instead of to 13:50). Will we change this to have 15 minute for all breaks?
    • Yes: RB
    • No:

Schedule, to be updated

  • Add GPUs?
    • [DECIDED] Yes: RB, BC, JY, PM
    • No:
  • Remove complex jobs:
    • [DECIDED] Yes: RB, PB, BC, JY
    • No:
  • Remove replicate jobs:
    • [DECIDED] Yes: RB, PB, BC, JY
    • No:
  • How to deal with the extra 15 mins?
    • Q&A at the end: RB, BC
    • [DECIDED BY COIN TOSS] Academic quarter at the start: JY, PM
    • Do something else:
  • [DECIDED] 45 mins, 15 min break, etc.
When Who Change? What
9:00 R R is happy Introduction
9:10 R R is happy Prevaluation (will be merged with introduction)
9:20 P Transferring files p1 (includes login) (40 of 70 mins)
10:00 . Break
10:15 P Reduce by 15 mins if needed Transferring files p2 (30 of 70 mins)
10:45 R (see below) Efficient jobs 1/2
11:00 . Break
11:15 R R needs 15 mins extra Efficient jobs 2/2
11:35 J (25 mins) GPUs
11:20 R REMOVED, frees up 20 mins Complex jobs (i.e. Slurm job dependencies)
11:40 R REMOVED, frees up 20 mins Replicate jobs (i.e. Slurm job arrays)
12:00 . Lunch
13:00 B B gladly Software and packages installation p1
13:50 . Break
14:00 B B gladly Software and packages installation p2
14:40 B?,R B can skip, R would be up to teach IDEs on Bianca p1
14:50 . Break
15:05 B?,R B can skip, R would be up to teach IDEs on Bianca p2
15:40 R R is happy Summary
15:45 R R is happy Evaluation
15:45 All Voted for keep/remove Optional Q/A
16:00 . END
  • Who: B: Björn, P: Pavlin, R: Richèl

ToDos

  • BC can deal with learner info and course project
  • [ ] RB makes new schedule and sends it
  • [ ] BC will advertise more
  • [ ] RB will contact NBIS for advertisement
  • [ ] BC will remove old persons from sens2025560