Autumn 2025¶

• 6-8 October
• R: Mon 6 Oktober
• MATLAB: Tue 7 Oktober
• Julia: Wed 8 Oktober
• Advanced: Fri 10 Oct

Debriefing + planning meeting June 4 at 13:00¶

Goals¶

• go through evaluations
• form the groups (they can start meeting in Aug or when they decide to)
• decide on big pictures (like if we should remove things and split into basic/intermediate)
• some topic details can be covered since there are some preparations done for this
• find out working methods

Non-goals¶

• schedules
  • this is for the group

Agenda¶

• evaluations again
• groups
• general decisions on common levels for the courses
• working methods

Evaluations again¶

R¶

Comments by us¶

• [Richel] The course is an introduction course. I feel the start-up/foundational parts are given too little time, to allow for things that are sexier. I feel those beginner things need/deserve their time, also because the sexier topics build on them. Note that the confidences in these topics are usually among the lowest: maybe this is because that foundation is missing. In a schedule, 1 of these 3 topics can still fit in.

  • [MOVED TO DAY 4] Suggest to remove ‘Machine learning’: RB
    • [Björn] more and more demand for this (right?)
      • [Richel] I agree. But should it come at a cost of the foundational topics? Putting it in an intermediate course could be a possible fix
  • [MOVED TO DAY 4] Suggest to remove ‘Parallel’:
    • [Björn] although not that common, this is one of the cores
      • [Richel] There is no other session that build on this one, hence I would not call it a foundational/beginner topic. Putting it in an intermediate course could be a possible fix
    • [Linus] To make use of a cluster this is foundational. Without this, the users laptop is likely faster (unless significantly older than the cluster hardware).
      • [Richel] There is one time slot free where this topic may be put. Hence, if most people for this topic, it will be in :-)
    • [Richel] There is also a learner that wants to keep it in the evaluation
  • [KEEP] Suggest to remove ‘Isolated environments’: RB
    • [Björn] To my knowledge this is not use extensively, although for reproducibility it maybe should (I don’t know the community well)
      • [Richel] This may be, but should it come at a cost of the foundational topics? Putting it in an intermediate course could be a possible fix. There is one time slot free where this topic may be put. [DECIDED] keep this in the end of the R day, if time allows
  • [DECIDED] the simultaneous sessions on RStudio are done by RB: due to some NAISS-wide courses, teaching for more HPC clusters has gotten more normal

MATLAB¶

• Evaluations

  • Matlab evaluation survey, results
  • On GitHub

• Summary

  • 1 did not recommend
  • missing 5s
    • jupyter
    • GPU
    • client on desktop (is this the UPPMAX local)
    • parallel
  • large divergence in confidence
    • GPUs
    • view add-ons
    • parallel
  • no need for real-time reading
  • future topics: 3rd party tools

Comments by us¶

• BC:
  • restructure the 2 batch sessions
  • more info-hiding (stuff they can cover themselves)

Questions to solve

• no matlab the 4th day?
• everything included, need to remove something
• mv jupyter (either extra or advanced day)

Julia¶

• Evaluations

  • Julia evaluation survey, results
  • On GitHub

• Summary

  • at least one puts a 5 all the time!
  • large divergence in confidence
    • install julia package
    • envs
    • interactive (needs time)
    • batch script
    • RB: the parallel session is missing from the survey
  • good teaching
  • asks for ML and more GPU hands-on

Comments by us¶

• BC:
  • more info-hiding (stuff they can cover themselves)

• LS:

  • envs are basic Julia knowledge and fast: we might be able to teach by example through making new ones throughout the day, where it makes sense

• Discuss Pluto vs Jupyter in group!!

Groups¶

• R

  • RB
  • BB

• MATLAB

  • BC
  • RP
  • BB

• Julia

  • (BC)
  • LS
  • PO

• Advanced

  • PO
  • BB
  • BC (big data?) let’s ask Sahar if we schedule for it
  • Perhaps involve Jayant
  • LS
  • RP

Discussion general¶

Already decided¶

-

New things¶

• Demos/Type-alongs/Exercise

  • Teacher decides but think of which fits the most
  • like
    • Few lines as type-alongs and ask how well it works

• The content should be as similar as possible between languages? (like ML or not, basic+intermediate workshops)

  • yes:
  • no: RB

• Present content

• [1] Added by RB, I feel this is less open to interpretation than ‘Importance’

• 4th day

  • parallel
  • GPU
  • ML

• Reduce content?

  • no ML
  • no parallelism? hard question
    • MPI courses by NAISS but not for these languages
  • environments just needed for Julia
    • imbalance, (no IDE for Julia then?)
      • [LS] Pluto is such a fully-featured notebook now that another IDE rarely makes sense
      • Pluto/Jupyter discussed in group!
      • [BC] we need IDE then, I agree!
• Split into basic/intermediate?
  • Yes: RB
  • No:

Group work¶

• schedules

Earlier meetings¶

Meeting 21 May

All meetings